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Art. 2. Japan undertakes immediately to hand over to China, against the payment of 50,000 yen, all Japanese telegraph lines in Manchuria outside the railway territory. Japan is prepared to enter into negotiation with China with a view to coming to a certain arrangement concerning the Japanese telephone service in Manchuria outside the railway territory. Pending the conclusion of such an arrangement, Japan undertakes neither to extend her present telephone system in Manchuria, without having first obtained the consent of the Chinese Government, nor to use her telephone lines for the transmission of telegrams in competition with the Chinese telegraph lines.

Art. 3. At open marts or Treaty ports in Manchuria, which are in close proximity to the Japanese railway territory, namely, Antung, Newchwang, Liaoyang, Moukden, Tiehling, and Changchun, the Chinese Government agrees for a period of fifteen years to place one or two special telegraph wires from the said open marts or Treaty ports to such railway territory at the exclusive disposal of the Japanese Government telegraph service. Such wire or wires shall be maintained in good order and condition by the Chinese Government up to the railway territory.

Art. 4. The special wire or wires mentioned in Article 3 shall be worked from the Japanese telegraph buildings by Japanese clerks in the employ of the Japanese Government, and the Chinese Government undertakes to provide, at a total yearly rent of 700 Mexican dollars, suitable special offices and accommodations for this purpose, it being, however, understood that the said accommodations do not include dwelling quarters for the clerks.

Art. 5. The special wire or wires mentioned in Article 3 can only be used for the exchange of telegrams emanating from or destined to places under the direct control of the Japanese telegraph system.

Art. 6. At the open marts or Treaty ports mentioned in Article 3 the Japanese Telegraph Department will have its receiving office in the Chinese telegraph building, and delivery of Japanese traffic shall be made by messengers wearing no special uniform.

Art. 7. The Japanese Government undertakes to pay to the Chinese Government an annual sum of 3,000 yen as a royalty on all messages forwarded over the Japanese Manchurian telegraph lines.

Art. 8. This Convention shall be confirmed by the two Governments concerned, and shall be put into force when a detailed Agreement shall have been concluded with regard to the Chefoo-Kwantung cable and the Japanese Manchurian telegraph lines.

In witness whereof the Undersigned have signed this Agreement.

Done at Tôkiô in English, in duplicate, this day of the month of October, 1908.

This Document is the Property of His Britannic Majesty's Government


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Sir C. MacDonald to Sir Edward Grey.--(Received November 9.) (No. 262.)

Tokió, October 4, 1908. Sir,

MR. H. IJUIN, who has recently been appointed Japanese Minister to Peking, came to see me on the 2nd instant previously to starting to take up his duties.

Mr. Ijuin is, I think, a very good selection. He was for six years subsequent to the Boxer troubles Consul-General in Tien-tsin, and there became well acquainted with Yuan-shi-kai and his lieutenant, Tong-shao-yi. He has also served his country in Seoul, and his last post was, as you are aware, Councillor in the Japanese Embassy in London.

Mr. Ijuin stated that his experience at Tien-tsin led him to think that the Englishmen in China did not work together and were too independent, while constantly accusing their Government of being indifferent to their interests they were remarkably indifferent to their interests themselves. Germans, on the other hand, were keen and pushing and looked after their interests; they also hung together and worked much more than our people.

Mr. Ijuin admitted that there was such a thing as being too pushing, which he thought was accountable for the heavy failures in German firms which have taken place all over China and also in Japan. These failures seemed to be a source of some satisfaction to Mr. Ijuin, who thought that the English and Japanese should endeavour to work together and understand each other more than they did. He stated that he personally was going to use his utmost endeavours while in Peking to this end, and he greatly looked forward to having Sir John Jordan as his colleague.

He spoke of the Tsin-min-tun-Fakumen Railway, and greatly deplored the press campaign which was being carried on in England against Japan, and the accusations which were being made against the latter as to her supposed anti-open-door policy, which accusations he strongly refuted.

Speaking of Tong-shao-yi, who is shortly expected here, he said he was a Cantonese, undoubtedly clever, spoke both English and French well, but was somewhat superficial and lazy, and that he did not study questions deeply; he was, however, quick to make up his mind, and held very strongly and tenaciously to his opinions once arrived at.

He was Yuan-shi-kai's right-hand man, and had been with him in all his important posts.

Mr. Ijuin thought that the Boxer troubles had had with the Chinese Court and Government a great moral effect for good in that the hard experience gained by the Empress-Dowager and the Court officials would have a very salutary effect, anyway for two or three generations, in preventing outrages against foreigners.

Mr. Ijuin leaves for Peking with every intention of working on the most frank and cordial relations with His Majesty's Representative at that post.

I have, &c.

(Signed)

CLAUDE M. MacDONALD.

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Art. 2. Japan undertakes immediately to hand over to China, against the payment of 50,000 yen, all Japanese telegraph lines in Manchuria outside the railway territory. Japan is prepared to enter into negotiation with China with a view to coming to a certain arrangement concerning the Japanese telephone service in Manchuria outside the railway territory. Pending the conclusion of such an arrangement, Japan undertakes neither to extend her present telephone system in Manchuria, without having first obtained the consent of the Chinese Government, nor to use her telephone lines for the transmission of telegrams in competition with the Chinese telegraph lines. Art. 3. At open marts or Treaty ports in Manchuria, which are in close proximity to the Japanese railway territory, namely, Antung, Newchwang, Liaoyang, Moukden, Tiehling, and Changchun, the Chinese Government agrees for a period of fifteen years to place one or two special telegraph wires from the said open marts or Treaty ports to such railway territory at the exclusive disposal of the Japanese Government telegraph service. Such wire or wires shall be maintained in good order and condition by the Chinese Government up to the railway territory. Art. 4. The special wire or wires mentioned in Article 3 shall be worked from the Japanese telegraph buildings by Japanese clerks in the employ of the Japanese Government, and the Chinese Government undertakes to provide, at a total yearly rent of 700 Mexican dollars, suitable special offices and accommodations for this purpose, it being, however, understood that the said accommodations do not include dwelling quarters for the clerks. Art. 5. The special wire or wires mentioned in Article 3 can only be used for the exchange of telegrams emanating from or destined to places under the direct control of the Japanese telegraph system. Art. 6. At the open marts or Treaty ports mentioned in Article 3 the Japanese Telegraph Department will have its receiving office in the Chinese telegraph building, and delivery of Japanese traffic shall be made by messengers wearing no special uniform. Art. 7. The Japanese Government undertakes to pay to the Chinese Government an annual sum of 3,000 yen as a royalty on all messages forwarded over the Japanese Manchurian telegraph lines. Art. 8. This Convention shall be confirmed by the two Governments concerned, and shall be put into force when a detailed Agreement shall have been concluded with regard to the Chefoo-Kwantung cable and the Japanese Manchurian telegraph lines. In witness whereof the Undersigned have signed this Agreement. Done at Tôkiô in English, in duplicate, this day of the month of October, 1908. This Document is the Property of His Britannic Majesty's Government Page 363 Sir C. MacDonald to Sir Edward Grey.--(Received November 9.) (No. 262.) Tokió, October 4, 1908. Sir, MR. H. IJUIN, who has recently been appointed Japanese Minister to Peking, came to see me on the 2nd instant previously to starting to take up his duties. Mr. Ijuin is, I think, a very good selection. He was for six years subsequent to the Boxer troubles Consul-General in Tien-tsin, and there became well acquainted with Yuan-shi-kai and his lieutenant, Tong-shao-yi. He has also served his country in Seoul, and his last post was, as you are aware, Councillor in the Japanese Embassy in London. Mr. Ijuin stated that his experience at Tien-tsin led him to think that the Englishmen in China did not work together and were too independent, while constantly accusing their Government of being indifferent to their interests they were remarkably indifferent to their interests themselves. Germans, on the other hand, were keen and pushing and looked after their interests; they also hung together and worked much more than our people. Mr. Ijuin admitted that there was such a thing as being too pushing, which he thought was accountable for the heavy failures in German firms which have taken place all over China and also in Japan. These failures seemed to be a source of some satisfaction to Mr. Ijuin, who thought that the English and Japanese should endeavour to work together and understand each other more than they did. He stated that he personally was going to use his utmost endeavours while in Peking to this end, and he greatly looked forward to having Sir John Jordan as his colleague. He spoke of the Tsin-min-tun-Fakumen Railway, and greatly deplored the press campaign which was being carried on in England against Japan, and the accusations which were being made against the latter as to her supposed anti-open-door policy, which accusations he strongly refuted. Speaking of Tong-shao-yi, who is shortly expected here, he said he was a Cantonese, undoubtedly clever, spoke both English and French well, but was somewhat superficial and lazy, and that he did not study questions deeply; he was, however, quick to make up his mind, and held very strongly and tenaciously to his opinions once arrived at. He was Yuan-shi-kai's right-hand man, and had been with him in all his important posts. Mr. Ijuin thought that the Boxer troubles had had with the Chinese Court and Government a great moral effect for good in that the hard experience gained by the Empress-Dowager and the Court officials would have a very salutary effect, anyway for two or three generations, in preventing outrages against foreigners. Mr. Ijuin leaves for Peking with every intention of working on the most frank and cordial relations with His Majesty's Representative at that post. I have, &c. (Signed) CLAUDE M. MacDONALD. [2029 i-4] Page 363
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i 2 Art. 2. Japan undertakes immediately to hand over to China, against the payment of 50,000 yen, all Japanese telegraph lines in Manchuria outside the railway territory. Japan is prepared to enter into negotiation with China with a view to coming to a certain arrangement concerning the Japanese telephone service in Manchuria outside the railway territory. Pending the conclusion of such an arrangement, Japan undertakes neither to extend her present telephone system in Manchuria, without having first obtained the consent of the Chinese Government, nor to use her telephone lines for the transmission of telegrams in competition with the Chinese telegraph lines. Art. 3. At open marts or Treaty ports in Manchuria, which are in close proximity to the Japanese railway territory, namely, Antung, Newchwang, Liaoyang, Moukden, Tiehling, and Changchun, the Chinese Government agrees for a period of fifteen years to place one or two special telegraph wires from the said open marts or Treaty ports to such railway territory at the exclusive disposal of the Japanese Government telegraph service. Such wire or wires shall be maintained in good order and condition by the Chinese Government up to the railway territory. Art. 4. The special wire or wires mentioned in Article 3 shall be worked from the Japanese telegraph buildings by Japanese clerks in the employ of the Japanese Govern- ment, and the Chinese Government undertakes to provide, at a total yearly rent of 700 Mexican dollars, suitable special offices and accommodations for this purpose, it being, however, understood that the said accommodations do not include dwelling quarters for the clerks. Art. 5. The special wire or wires mentioned in Article 3 can only be used for the exchange of telegrams emanating from or destined to places under the direct control of the Japanese telegraph systemi. Art. 6. At the open marts or Treaty ports mentioned in Article 3 the Japanese Telegraph Department will have its receiving office in the Chinese telegraph building, and delivery of Japanese traffic shall be made by messengers wearing no special uniform. Art. 7. The Japanese Government undertakes to pay to the Chinese Government an annual sum of 3,000 yen as a royalty on all messages forwarded over the Japanese Manchurian telegraph lines. Art. 8. This Convention shall be confirmed by the two Governments concerned, and shall be put into force when a detailed Agreement shall have been concluded with regard to the Chefoo-Kwantung cable and the Japanese Manchurian telegraph lines. In witness whereof the Undersigned have signed this Agreement. Done at Tôkid in English, in duplicate, this day of the month of October, 1908. This Document is the Property of His Britannic Majesty's Government C AFFAIRS OF CHINA. CONFIDENTIAL. [38933] No. 1. 44174 November 9.] SECTION 30.08 363 Sir C. MacDonald to Sir Edward Grey.--(Received November 9.) (No. 262.) Tokió, October 4, 1908. Sir, MR. H. IJUIN, who has recently been appointed Japanese Minister to Peking, came to see me on the 2nd instant previously to starting to take up his duties. Mr. Ijuin is, I think, a very good selection. He was for six years subsequent to the Boxer troubles Consul-General in Tien-tsin, and there became well acquainted with Yuan-shi-kai and his lieutenant, Tong-shao-yi. He has also served his country in Seoul, and his last post was, as you are aware, Councillor in the Japanese Embassy in London. Mr. Ijnin stated that his experience at Tien-tsin led him to think that the Englishmen in China did not work together and were too independent, while constantly accusing their Government of being indifferent to their interests they were remarkably indifferent to their interests themselves. Germans, on the other hand, were keen and pushing and looked after their interests; they also hung together and worked much more than our people. Mr. Ijuin admitted that there was such a thing as being too pushing, which he thought was accountable for the heavy failures in German firms which have taken place all over China and also in Japan. These failures seemed to be a source of some satisfaction to Mr. Ijuin, who thought that the English and Japanese should endeavour to work together and understand each other more than they did. He stated that he personally was going to use his utmost endeavours while in Peking to this end, and he greatly looked forward to having Sir John Jordan as his colleague. He spoke of the Tsin-min-tun-Fakumen Railway, and greatly deplored the press campaign which was being carried on in England against Japan, and the accusations which were being made against the latter as to her supposed anti-open-door policy, which accusations he strongly refuted. Speaking of Tong-shao-yi, who is shortly expected here, he said he was a Cantonese, undoubtedly clever, spoke both English and French well, but was somewhat superficial and lazy, and that he did not study questions deeply; he was, however, quick to make up his mind, and held very strongly and tenaciously to his opinions once arrived at. He was Yuan-shi-kai's right-hand man, and had been with him in all his important posts. Mr. Ijuin thought that the Boxer troubles had had with the Chinese Court and Government a great moral effect for good in that the hard experience gained by the Empress-Dowager and the Court officials would have a very salutary effect, anyway for two or three generations, in preventing outrages against foreigners. Mr. Ijuin leaves for Peking with every intention of working on the most frank and cordial relations with His Majesty's Representative at that post. I have, &c. (Signed) CLAUDE M., MacDONALD. [2029 i-4]
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Art. 2. Japan undertakes immediately to hand over to China, against the payment of 50,000 yen, all Japanese telegraph lines in Manchuria outside the railway territory. Japan is prepared to enter into negotiation with China with a view to coming to a certain arrangement concerning the Japanese telephone service in Manchuria outside the railway territory. Pending the conclusion of such an arrangement, Japan undertakes neither to extend her present telephone system in Manchuria, without having first obtained the consent of the Chinese Government, nor to use her telephone lines for the transmission of telegrams in competition with the Chinese telegraph lines.

Art. 3. At open marts or Treaty ports in Manchuria, which are in close proximity to the Japanese railway territory, namely, Antung, Newchwang, Liaoyang, Moukden, Tiehling, and Changchun, the Chinese Government agrees for a period of fifteen years to place one or two special telegraph wires from the said open marts or Treaty ports to such railway territory at the exclusive disposal of the Japanese Government telegraph service. Such wire or wires shall be maintained in good order and condition by the Chinese Government up to the railway territory.

Art. 4. The special wire or wires mentioned in Article 3 shall be worked from the Japanese telegraph buildings by Japanese clerks in the employ of the Japanese Govern- ment, and the Chinese Government undertakes to provide, at a total yearly rent of 700 Mexican dollars, suitable special offices and accommodations for this purpose, it being, however, understood that the said accommodations do not include dwelling quarters for the clerks.

Art. 5. The special wire or wires mentioned in Article 3 can only be used for the exchange of telegrams emanating from or destined to places under the direct control of the Japanese telegraph systemi.

Art. 6. At the open marts or Treaty ports mentioned in Article 3 the Japanese Telegraph Department will have its receiving office in the Chinese telegraph building, and delivery of Japanese traffic shall be made by messengers wearing no special uniform.

Art. 7. The Japanese Government undertakes to pay to the Chinese Government an annual sum of 3,000 yen as a royalty on all messages forwarded over the Japanese Manchurian telegraph lines.

Art. 8. This Convention shall be confirmed by the two Governments concerned, and shall be put into force when a detailed Agreement shall have been concluded with regard to the Chefoo-Kwantung cable and the Japanese Manchurian telegraph lines.

In witness whereof the Undersigned have signed this Agreement.

Done at Tôkid in English, in duplicate, this day of the month of October, 1908.

This Document is the Property of His Britannic Majesty's Government

C

AFFAIRS OF CHINA.

CONFIDENTIAL.

[38933]

No. 1.

44174 November 9.]

SECTION 30.08

363

Sir C. MacDonald to Sir Edward Grey.--(Received November 9.) (No. 262.)

Tokió, October 4, 1908. Sir,

MR. H. IJUIN, who has recently been appointed Japanese Minister to Peking, came to see me on the 2nd instant previously to starting to take up his duties.

Mr. Ijuin is, I think, a very good selection. He was for six years subsequent to the Boxer troubles Consul-General in Tien-tsin, and there became well acquainted with Yuan-shi-kai and his lieutenant, Tong-shao-yi. He has also served his country in Seoul, and his last post was, as you are aware, Councillor in the Japanese Embassy in London.

Mr. Ijnin stated that his experience at Tien-tsin led him to think that the Englishmen in China did not work together and were too independent, while constantly accusing their Government of being indifferent to their interests they were remarkably indifferent to their interests themselves. Germans, on the other hand, were keen and pushing and looked after their interests; they also hung together and worked much more than our people.

Mr. Ijuin admitted that there was such a thing as being too pushing, which he thought was accountable for the heavy failures in German firms which have taken place all over China and also in Japan. These failures seemed to be a source of some satisfaction to Mr. Ijuin, who thought that the English and Japanese should endeavour to work together and understand each other more than they did. He stated that he personally was going to use his utmost endeavours while in Peking to this end, and he greatly looked forward to having Sir John Jordan as his colleague.

He spoke of the Tsin-min-tun-Fakumen Railway, and greatly deplored the press campaign which was being carried on in England against Japan, and the accusations which were being made against the latter as to her supposed anti-open-door policy, which accusations he strongly refuted.

Speaking of Tong-shao-yi, who is shortly expected here, he said he was a Cantonese, undoubtedly clever, spoke both English and French well, but was somewhat superficial and lazy, and that he did not study questions deeply; he was, however, quick to make up his mind, and held very strongly and tenaciously to his opinions once arrived at.

He was Yuan-shi-kai's right-hand man, and had been with him in all his important posts.

Mr. Ijuin thought that the Boxer troubles had had with the Chinese Court and Government a great moral effect for good in that the hard experience gained by the Empress-Dowager and the Court officials would have a very salutary effect, anyway for two or three generations, in preventing outrages against foreigners.

Mr. Ijuin leaves for Peking with every intention of working on the most frank and cordial relations with His Majesty's Representative at that post.

I have, &c.

(Signed)

CLAUDE M., MacDONALD.

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